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SPRINGS COMMUNITY COUNCIL
of Board Meeting:† April 19, 2000,
NSCC Presidentís Board Room
Liz Kearns, Jerry Owens, Randy Elder, Jan Brucker, Bob Messina, Nancy
Sharp, John Meerscheidt, Wanda Fullner, Debra Willendorf, and Ellen Beck.
Wally Fosmore, Pam Larsen, Bethany Ryals, Edie Whitsett, and Sheryl Stich.
Violet Paschke, Marine Morrison, Jean Wirch, Ken Thompson, Vera Galbraith,
Steve Hughes, Dave Barber, Roger Iwata (Sound Transit), David Hemmelgarn
(Seattle Executive Services Department, Real Estate Services), Officer
R.J. Leonard (Seattle Police Department Ė Parking Division), and Andrew
Schmid (Cynthia Sullivanís Office).
Liz Kearns called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. and those present
informed those present that Greg Nichols (King County Councilman), who
was scheduled to speak at our meeting, had telephoned her early this morning
to say that he would be unable to attend because of having to attend another
The March 15, 2000 meeting minutes were approved as presented.
Report:† Nancy Sharp reported a balance of $1206.07 in LSCCís
bank accounts.† Nancy also gave the Annual Report of Treasurer.† She felt
that our higher balance reflected more awareness of the Council because
of the neighborhood planning effort.† Many more people are paying dues.†
Nancy said this gave us the opportunity to think about how we wanted to
budget our income.† The Treasurerís Annual Report was approved and accepted.
Report:† Liz Kearns gave Board members a written Presidentís Year-End
Report.† She also announced that the LSCC budget was on the agenda for
the May Board meeting.
Transit/Light Rail/Northgate Station, etc.:† Liz next turned the
meeting over to Roger Iwata, who is with Sound Transit.† Mr. Iwata brought
us up to date on Sound Transitís planning/activities since the November
1996 levy was passed by voters to improve mass transit.† He reminded us
that there were three parts to the transit plan:† express buses; commuter
rail, and electric light rail.† He invited people to visit the Sound Transit
website at www.soundtransit.org
for information.† Mr. Iwata said that Sound Transit was working to
integrate the transit systems of King, Pierce, and Snohomish Counties,
by routes, connections/transfers, and payments working within the different
county systems.† Commuter rail would begin in the fall and trains would
run between Tacoma and the King Street Station on the existing commercial
tracks.† It is estimated that the trip will take 55 minutes.† It is estimated
that by 2002 commuter rail would be going from King Street Station north
to Everett; and also further south (of Tacoma) in Pierce County.† Mr. Iwata
explained that the light rail component actually involved two systems.†
The first system would be from the Tacoma Dome to the central business
district.† There will be very frequent trains for 20 hours a day.† The
second system would run from SeaTac and north to Northgate.† Mr. Iwata
said that many meetings and public forums have been held and will continue
to be held to get public input on the route, method of travel (underground,
elevated), and location of stations.† Mr. Iwata answered questions
from those present during his presentation and after he had completed
his comments.† He noted that the budget has set asides for impacts created
by the light rail system when noise concerns were expressed.
and Jan Brucker both mentioned that Licton Springs believes that a tunnel
from the west side to the east side of I-5 is crucial for this community.†
The tunnel envisioned would be spacious (as wide a space as the area under
I-5 at Northgate Way), but the pathway would have the same dimensions
as the Burke-Gilman Trail.† The remaining area would be taken up by a
daylighted Thornton Creek.† The pathway would be for pedestrians and bicycle
riders, but could be used by emergency vehicles if necessary.
noted that in meetings in connection with the North Seattle Community
College Master Plan, the College had received a commitment from Sound
Transit for a tunnel/underpass.† Dave noted that there are 7,000 households
in this community and that 8,300 students attend NSCC.† There needs to
be a tunnel to facilitate everyone from the west side of I-5 getting easily
to the Transit Center.
recommended that the Council contact representatives at the State level,
the Department of Engineers, and also go back to the College on the tunnel
RPZ, Enforcement:† Officer R.J. Leonard, who is with the Seattle
Police Department, Parking Enforcement, told us that because of how our
RPZ was going to be set up it would be difficult for the SPD to enforce.†
No parking except by permit was the easiest type of RPZ to enforce.† Debra
Willendorf explained that SeaTran would allow our RPZ to be moved up to
an only by permit RPZ, but we had to begin with an RPZ that set hours
for restricted parking.† Officer Leonard told us that if we had illegal
parked cars to report, it was best to call the non-emergency 911 number,
because the officers give preference to radio calls.† Officer Leonard
also told us that he had very few officers to cover a very large area,
and that annual requests for more parking enforcement officers did not
meet with success.† Also, recommendations from Parking Enforcement to
SeaTran regarding RPZís were not accepted by SeaTran.
advised us to put pressure on the City to get more officers.† The budget
planning process was going on right now, so this would be a good time
to give our comments and requests to the City Council.† He also said that
the Council needs to hear about the problems between SeaTran and SPD.
of parking problems followed.† It was noted that because there were no
residences in the area where the North Precinct officers park their cars,
it was impossible to establish an RPZ in that area.† Randy Elder was asked
to bring the topic of parking problems to the next North Precinct meeting
he attends.† Other locations for officers to park their cars were discussed.†
It was noted that the officers do not want to park en masse very far away
from the Precinct because they fear vandalism to their personal vehicles.
suggested we find out if citizens can place notices on illegally parked
cars as a way to assist RPZ enforcement.† Randy said that he would find
Plan Implementation: †David Hemmelgarn (684-0701), who is with
the City of Seattle Executive Department, Real Estate Services, reported
to us on the City Light substation.† He again provided us with maps showing
the area around the substation.† He said that the substation lot is being
cleaned up.† It was unclear if this was the work of City Light or a tenant.†
David reported that the substation property had moved up to No. 1 on the
list of properties to receive environmental assessments.† This was a good
sign.† He said that when City Light officially declares the substation
to be surplus, other City departments are informed and have the opportunity
to claim the property.† It normally takes 30 days for the notice process
to be completed.† He acknowledged the meeting of neighbors in the vicinity
of the substation and their preference for affordable housing in that
location.† Discussion followed.
that LSCC should write a letter (by July) to the City of Seattle Executive
Department, Real Estate Services, expressing the preferences of LSCC for
the substation property.
Business Ė Director Elections:† Dave Barber presented the following
motion for consideration; it was seconded by Randy Elder:
the Bylaws of the Licton Springs Community be amended by insertion of
the following paragraph in the section concerning election of officers:
of the Board of Directors shall be limited to two successive terms in
office, but may serve as president again after another person has held
that office.† All former presidents of the Community Council shall be
additional, Ex Officio members of the Board of Directors, as long
as they are residents in the community, or unless they resign from such
office.† All Ex Officio members of the Board of Directors shall
have full voting rights on any matters to be decided by the Board, but
their presence shall not be required to attain a quorum for action by
followed.† Board members suggested more time for consideration would be
helpful.† The secretary volunteered to e-mail the motion to Board members
the following day for their further consideration.
next asked the secretary to poll all members with terms expiring as to
their willingness to continue:
Jan Brucker††††††††† ††††-† Willing to continue;
Bob Messina†††††††† ††† -††Willing to continue;
Wanda Fullner††††††† † -††Willing to continue;
Liz Kearns††††††††††† ††† -† Willing to continue; and
Ellen Beck††† ††††††††††† -†Willing to continue.
and Nancy seconded that the above members be elected by acclamation.†
This motion passed unanimously.
Sharp confirmed that she was resigning.† Appreciation for all the hard
work done by our Treasurer was expressed.† Weíll miss you, Nancy!
was nominated to complete Nancyís term (till 2001).† Randy moved and John
Meerscheidt seconded the nomination.† Debra was unanimously elected.
Springs Park.† Wanda Fullner gave a report on the bathroom door at
Licton Springs Park.† She said that she and Liz had met with Chris Williams,
Rick Nichi, and Patrick Miriam (crew chief).† Wanda and Liz stressed to
the gentlemen that it was very important to LSCC that the menís door remained
locked until the bathroom is safe.† The Parks Department proposed that
the bathroom be torn down in 2001 and that a new comfort station be built.†
They said there was funding for this.† In the meanwhile, a Honey Bucket
would be installed for use in place of the menís bathroom.† Liz and Wanda
proposed to Parks that LSCC could pay the rental fee for the Honey Bucket
through year 2000.
and discussion followed from those present.† Jan Brucker stated that she
would prefer that we use our funding to move the menís bathroom door.†
She said that we had to be sure we had a firm commitment from Parks and
that the funding would still be available when the time came to replace
Licton Springs Parkís comfort station in 2001 as Parks was proposing.
that she would get confirmation from the Parks Department regarding timing,
funding, etc. for the new Licton Springs Park comfort station.
reported that there could be a proposal to take the east side of Licton
Springs Park for increased water retention after the drainage basin study.†
urged the Board to inform David Hemmelgarn of our concerns in writing.†
We should also communicate with the Mayor and City Council.† We need to
make our voices heard.† He said that compared with other communities,
we do not have much political clout.
adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
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